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postitatud 11-15-2009 Kell 13:29 |
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Discussion in JREF forum about a Estonian ufo-photo. - FAKE
I discovered, that someone called "Satakas" (I wonder who ) has posted my photos
into a international forum. International skeptics forum.
Seems, that this "Satakas" is pretty disappointed, for getting no skeptical explenation for that phonemen.
Topic is here: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=153581
The original photos that started this conversation, were taken on Tallinn- Helsinki ferry. August 2008.
http://galerii.para-web.org/albums/userpics/10001/2008-12-03_Volke013.jpg
http://galerii.para-web.org/albums/userpics/10001/2008-12-03_Volke011.jpg
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postitatud 11-15-2009 Kell 20:00 |
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Some say, that it could be:
Some sort of optical interference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)
Or diffraction of a rain drop - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction
Or coherence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherence_(physics)#Spectral_coherence
Or a reflection on the glass infront of the camera....
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 01:00 |
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Which is it then? Or are they all speculations without any solid base? I mean, the pictures were awesome But if you never altered them in any way then... Well, the symbol is worth studying
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 02:41 |
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Which is it then? Or are they all speculations without any solid base?
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Well...that's the problem with those kind of photos - there's rarely any solid base for anything, all you can do is try to speculate and from these
speculations find the most probable one...
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 03:58 |
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Which is it then? Or are they all speculations without any solid base?
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Well...that's the problem with those kind of photos - there's rarely any solid base for anything, all you can do is try to speculate and from these
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And what do you think is the most probable speculation?
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 04:14 |
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It's kinda early for that...
...but I wouldn't mind if someone more at home in optics(and general physics) would take a look..clearly it's too regular shaped to be a actual flying
object...I speculate that there is a correlation between the rainbow, camera lens and the object(as if some sort of optical illusion)...but yeah, who
knows...
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 04:21 |
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A UFO looking like a Minolta sign 
But who knows what it is... Interesting photos anyway
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 08:53 |
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Maybe its other way around - UF O looks like Minolta sign ...
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 15:03 |
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Maybe its other way around - UF O looks like Minolta sign ...
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So, this Minolta sign looks like a UFO Great! That must mean that the creators of
the Minolta sign know smth... I do not believe in coincidences.
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 15:26 |
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Good news everybody,
I got a confirmation from the author of this original picture. He confessed, that it's fake . Reflection from a window, like skeptics suggested.
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postitatud 11-16-2009 Kell 15:39 |
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Good news everybody,
I got a confirmation from the author of this original picture. He confessed, that it's fake . Reflection from a window, like skeptics suggested.
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Mjäuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Kajab öises linnas ürgkassi näug,
Ei kuule seda keegi,
Vaid meie, kelle hinge sõelumas Vaikus.
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